Episode 320

The Subscription Model Changing the Financial Industry (No Net Worth Required!) with Joel Miller, CFP®

Published on: 19th June, 2025

Ever felt overwhelmed by financial lingo like IULs, ETFs, or why your advisor earns more when you invest more? In this episode of I Date Money®, Lisa Drennon sits down with Joel Miller, Certified Financial Planner and founder of Flames Financial Planning, to break down a revolutionary approach to financial advising: flat-fee, subscription-based service that actually puts your goals first. No commissions. No hidden agendas. Just honest, comprehensive planning that includes investments, tax filing, estate plans, and a whole lot of peace of mind.

Whether you’re working with $250K or $3M+, this episode is for the mompreneur ready to manage and multiply her money—without fear, shame, or overwhelm. Joel’s warm, faith-rooted approach makes even the most complex strategies feel like a cozy conversation at your favorite coffee shop.


Topics Discussed:

  • Why most financial advisors are still stuck in the old, commission-heavy model
  • How flat-fee planning eliminates conflict of interest
  • What the “gym membership” approach to financial planning really means
  • The truth about taxes: what most advisors don’t offer—but Flames does
  • Roth rollovers, IULs, expense ratios, and common investing fears demystified
  • Christian perspectives on money stewardship (and why “money is the root of all evil” is not the full story)
  • Why compounding interest is the quiet millionaire-maker
  • The power of consistency, not perfection, when building long-term wealth

Quote to Remember:

“It’s not about timing the market. It’s about time in the market—and trusting someone to drive while you enjoy the journey.” – Joel Miller, CFP®

Guest Info:

👉 Learn more about Flames Financial Planning: https://flamesfp.com

👉 Follow Joel on Instagram + YouTube: @joelmillerCFP


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I Date Money
Rebuild financial stability after divorce—rewrite your money story with clarity and confidence.
Welcome to iDateMoney®, the podcast where divorced mompreneurs learn how to rebuild financial stability after divorce without spreadsheets, shame, or second-guessing every decision.

Hosted by Lisa Drennon—Wealth Activator, money strategist, and creator of the Money Multiplier System— this show is where clarity meets confidence.

Each week, Lisa shares raw stories, practical strategies, and spiritual insights to help you:

Release fear and guilt around money so you feel safe spending again.

Create steady income and financial security—even if your business feels unpredictable.

Confidently pay yourself, cover taxes, and provide stability for your kids.

Rewrite your money story so you can step into your role as a secure, empowered mom.

This isn’t your accountant’s podcast. It’s real talk for women ready to stop feeling broke, build true stability, and finally trust themselves with money.

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Lisa Drennon

Lisa Drennon, Wealth Activator & founder of iDateMoney® has been in the finance & insurance industry since 1987. Her unconventional Money Multiplier System transformed her money relationship to become a self-made millionaire, retire 2 ½ years early, pay $100K of debt in 6 months, & relocate to her beachfront dream home.